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you

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my name is Lee Spiegel and I'm a

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journalist

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writer/producer based out of New York

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City and I can't believe it for 46 years

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now I've been researching and

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investigating unidentified flying

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objects are more commonly known as UFOs

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and what what first caught my eye about

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this was back in 1973 while I was in New

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York doing other work there was a wave

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of sightings across the country that

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suddenly for some reason hit the news

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media usually scattered UFO sightings

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would rarely make you in your 11 o'clock

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news because it just simply wasn't as

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important or interesting to the news

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people but all of a sudden there's so

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many sightings across the country it

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just caught my attention and so I

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started researching I started reading

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books about it and the more I read the

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more I realized that there's something

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really there that's that should not be

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promoting ridicule of people who claim

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that they've seen certain things and I

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came up with an idea to try and approach

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a major record company a recording

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company in New York City it was new CBS

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and at the time they were putting record

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albums on television they were selling

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albums in early infomercials on TV and I

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thought yeah now that's an idea that

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because nobody has ever sold a UFO album

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on TV and I thought boy if I could if I

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could convince them to give me the front

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money that I asked for and go around the

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country and interview scientists

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military people law enforcement people

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astronauts a variety of people who were

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credible and who either had strong

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opinions about UFOs or had had their own

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experiences and didn't mind talking

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about it

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so I had friends in the entertainment

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world who had contacts and they got me a

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meeting at CBS EMA I pitched them and

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they said okay it sounds like an

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interesting idea it gave me the money

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and and it launched me for my first trip

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ever flying and going around the country

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with a tape recorder and interviewing

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people who I had read about in this one

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particular book called beyond Earth

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man's contact with UFOs by Ralph and

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Judy Blum these people had written a

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great book like a primer book on UFOs

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and and I and with their help I was then

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able to contact the people in the book

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that I wanted to talk to her and I came

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back to New York with a variety of

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interviews and we put this thing

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together in the studio I I wrote the

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script co-produced it well actually I

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wrote the script produced it and it was

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called UFOs the credibility factor and

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at first CPS didn't like the title they

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said what is it what does that mean

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what what do you mean credibility what

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does that mean I said are you kidding

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credibility that means everything about

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UFOs that I'm interested in has to have

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something to do with credibility

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otherwise I'm not interested in touching

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it at all and I said okay what do you

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mean credibility factor are you kidding

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this is the credibility factor of UFOs

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it's plain and simple that's the title

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and they said okay we'll go far and the

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the record album came out we released it

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in the beginning of 1976 on television

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it was great to see an actual UFO to see

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a UFO ad on TV with portions of the

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album being listened to and viewed on

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the screen it was great that the album

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was well received and after I did the

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album and had a little bit of notoriety

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because of how credible it was I wanted

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to do something else to follow it up but

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I didn't want to just maintain it to one

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thing like an album again I wanted to

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reach a bigger audience and and to me

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living in New York the biggest audience

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that I could find was the United Nations

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and I I thought boy if I can get into

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the United Nations and do anything there

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about UFOs and to bring some of the

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people there with me who are on my album

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that would be amazing

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well I found out very quickly that if

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you want to do anything at the United

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Nations you can't just walk up and knock

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on the door and say hello my name is Lee

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Spiegel who do I talk to you about doing

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a presentation here about UFOs well how

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long after that do you think the United

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Nations Security Force would be coming

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after me so I looked around I asked her

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on and people said to me if you want to

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do anything at the UN you have to be

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part of a delegation you have to be a

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delegate of a country that's interested

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in this topic and that wouldn't mind

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sponsoring your proposal so in 1977 I

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started seeing and hearing about these

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speeches that were being made at the UN

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by the prime minister of the little

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Caribbean country known as Grenada he

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was trying to get the UN to create a

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committee that would investigate study

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and share UFO information

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internationally among all the nations

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and as it turned out they weren't paying

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any attention to him and it even the

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media didn't really care what he was

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talking about because he's a little he's

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a little country a little nation nobody

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cared what he was interested in but I

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figured hey he's the only game in town

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so I i hatched the plan and I called the

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ambassadors at the mission the official

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Grenada mission in New York and I

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introduced myself to them and told them

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that I had produced a very credible

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record album and I would like to come

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through their office and give them a

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copy of the album that they could give

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as a gift to the prime minister with my

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compliments because I think I can help

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all of you with your idea of doing UFOs

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at the United Nations shortly after I

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left my record album in the hands of the

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ambassador's at grenade

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they called and said that the Prime

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Minister was coming to New York and he

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was going to be knighted as Sir Eric

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gairy in a big ceremony and would I like

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to come and and witness the ceremony and

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then have a private meeting with the

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prime minister to talk about my proposal

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I said yes of course I'd love to do that

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and I went it was a beautiful evening

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lots of lots of flags and people and

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great food and international cuisine and

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stuff and when it was all over and he

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was knighted they they brought me and

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him into a room just the two of us and

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we shook hands and he said that he

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enjoyed all of the album that he

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listened to he loved the voices he knew

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who these people were but he he had

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never thought that even contact them

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because he didn't know how to contact

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them and so he asked me what my idea was

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and I said listen mr. prime minister

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with all due respect you've been trying

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to get the United Nations to pay

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attention to your crusade to get the

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United Nations to create an

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International Study Committee on UFOs

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and for what it's worth and I'm sure you

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know this they're not paying attention

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to you there's been no movement here I

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on the other hand I know people from my

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album and now that you know who the

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people were who were on the album I can

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bring the people who were on my album

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the scientists the military astronaut I

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can bring these people to the United

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Nations if you were to sponsor my

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proposal and and we could work on it

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together and he thought about and he

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said it's an excellent idea let's do it

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I said okay and handshake deal

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it was it was the beginning of the rest

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of the year in 1978

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shortly after that happened I received

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in in the mail a little yellow card that

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was my actual now official

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Grenada delegates card which meant I

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could take this card go to the United

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Nations go to the security desk show it

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to them and they let me in with no

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problem I didn't have to go and knocking

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on the door and I used that card many

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times to go there to have meetings with

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people going through documents and any

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any materials that I wanted to use and

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gather for the rest of the year before

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the big presentation in November and and

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that's that's how the rest of the year

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just follow through with my traveling

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around and gathering all the material

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and the people to put this thing

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together and we pulled it off on

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November 27th 1978 the media was there

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and a lot of the countries were

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represented there and my main speakers

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at the United Nations were dr. J Allen

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Hynek who was the former 20 years

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scientific consultant to the Air Force's

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Project Blue Book they're big UFO

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investigation after high-neck spoke at

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dr. Jacques Vallee astrophysicist who

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was the real-life scientist who was

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portrayed in the movie Close Encounters

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of the Third Kind one of the other

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participants who couldn't be there at

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the meeting because he was he was out of

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the country but he wanted to be part of

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it was a former astronaut one of

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America's first astronauts Gordon Cooper

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and so I asked him if he would just put

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a letter together and send it to me that

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I could then give to Grenada and we

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could make a million copies of it

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basically outlining his views as a

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former test pilot astronaut and and

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letting us know what he thinks UFOs are

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and and why astronauts in general don't

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like talking about UFOs so he put this

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beautiful letter together I got it I

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passed it on to the Grenada people they

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were happy we had all kinds of documents

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that really made the case for what I was

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thinking was disclosure about UFOs at

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the time all the speakers came we did

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the presentation we had a morning

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session an afternoon session with a

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press conference in between and after

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the press conference we were back into

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the special political committee room

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where nuclear physicist Stan Friedman

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gave his speech and and told the global

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audience that it's his very strong

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opinion that there's evidence that

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indicates that some UFOs are

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interplanetary space vehicles visiting

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earth he's always had this opinion but

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he's very strong about that and so when

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it was all over and all said and done

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there were many nations that were

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interested at least examining the

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proposal and maybe considering a

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committee a small committee to look into

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this but the United States and the then

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Soviet Union veto didn't said they

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weren't interested in it and when they

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bowed out

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other nations started quietly going away

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and it just has been laying dormant

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there at the United Nations all these

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years all these decades for anybody else

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to come along and try and do it again

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people have asked me over the years why

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don't you done do it again why don't you

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do it again and I said I I don't have

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the energy hey it took so much energy

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just to pull it off the first time I

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don't think I could go any further with

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it however just a case in point

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historically today 40 years later after

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that presentation there are now many

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countries that are very interested in

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very outspoken and have open government

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investigations into UFOs in fact there

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are several countries in South America

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whose military organizations from one

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country to another they're working

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together now to try and figure out the

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truth behind this whole UFO thing that's

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that's really great to know that

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they're actually working together

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normally you wouldn't think that the

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military of one country would want to

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cooperate with the military of another

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country but they are France for years

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has had their own official UFO

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investigation committee for the

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government they're very open about it so

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if I were to do something again like

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that I would go to all these countries

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first to say hey look at what I did in

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1978 would you be interested in trying

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something again with me now but I'm not

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sure if I'm gonna go in that direction

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we'll see how tired I am tomorrow I just

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don't know

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I have heard over the years that there

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is some alleged love-hate relationship

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between UFOs and the media I'm not sure

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that I would describe it as a love-hate

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relationship I think that what people

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don't understand is UFOs appear over all

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countries we already know this their

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vast databases that indicate it's not

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just an American phenomenon these things

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are seen everywhere and the thing is

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they show up whenever and wherever they

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want they know that they're being seen

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especially at night there are so many

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cases where they'll show up over over

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either large populated areas or rural

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areas and they'll just put all their

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lights on I mean a couple of years ago

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my my brother was driving up in New

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Hampshire with with one of my nephew's

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his son and they thought they saw a UFO

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from the car so they pulled over they

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get out of the car and they realized

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immediately that this thing was was

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moving in such a way that it was coming

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in for a final approach landing at a

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local airport so I know UFO they got

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back into the car and kept driving and

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my nephew said daddy why do UFOs have

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lights and my brother said I don't know

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but when we get back to to the house

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let's call uncle Lee in New York and

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let's ask him so it's what they did and

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and Zachary my nephew called and said

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uncle Lee we thought we saw a UFO

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tonight but it turned out that it wasn't

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but but I want to know because you know

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about this stuff why do UFOs have lights

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and I said well Zachary my my first

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impression my initial impression is that

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they have lights so that we can see them

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this I think they want to be seen they

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certainly don't need their lights to

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navigate in the air they probably can do

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that in the dark because their

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technology is is so much further ahead

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than ours they don't need lights like we

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need lights so that we don't crash into

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each other I I think that they want to

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be seen and and it's part of a a

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gigantic tease a teasing of humanity

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that these things and they've been

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around for nearly 50,000 years according

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to the Air Force I have a document that

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indicates that's what the Air Force was

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teaching their cadets back in 1968 in a

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special science textbook at the Air

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Force Academy

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chapter 33 called unidentified flying

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objects the book itself was a physics

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textbook called introductory space

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science and there was a chapter about

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UFOs and this book in this chapter was

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not for publication the public could not

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see it it was only for Air Force cadets

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the future Air Force pilots and officers

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of this country and it's an amazing

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document and and I was able to get it

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through dr. Hynek and we we made a lot

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of copies of it and used it as part of

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our evidence at the United Nations but

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essentially what the Air Force was

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telling their cadets in 1968 here are

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some theories this is what we think may

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be going on with UFOs the strongest

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theory for us is that UFOs are manned or

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remote-controlled craft operated by

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beings from another planet or more than

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one planet this is a difficult concept

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to consider but the evidence suggests

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that Earth is being visited by several

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groups of extraterrestrials maybe three

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or four groups at different stages of

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development

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and and we know from recorded history

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that humans have been intermingling with

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and seeing strange things in the skies

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going back fifty thousand years that's

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amazing stuff that they would only tell

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the cadets and and so this idea of a

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love-hate relationship between it's not

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just between the UFOs and the media it's

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between UFOs and the people of this

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planet I don't think the UFOs or the

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intelligence behind them care about the

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media whatever their agenda is I don't

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think they care about media they know

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that being seen they know when they want

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to be seen and you would think that they

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would just you know show themselves if

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you're here show yourselves wherever you

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are but they're not doing that that's

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done in science fiction movies where

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they appear over major cities before

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they invade us so it doesn't look like

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they're here to eat us and they've been

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here for a long time whoever they are

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personally I don't care I don't care

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where they come from

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I don't care where they look like um

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maybe I care a little bit I'd like to

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see what some of them look like but I

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basically don't care it's more important

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to me that in the work that I do is to

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try and get people to understand that

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this whole concept of disclosure people

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are always asking me where is where is

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the truth why won't there be any

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disclosure and my attitude is and in my

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presentations now I say to people at the

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beginning of a presentation I say to

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them please don't believe anything I'm

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going to tell you tonight

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just tell her because you shouldn't

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until you have a really really good

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valid opinion about UFOs and what's

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going on and I'm hoping to help you with

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that opinion tonight and I'm going to

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give you many examples of where and why

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I believe disclosure has already

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happened many many times in our history

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it's out there and all you have to do is

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look for it spend the time maneuver

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through all the crap that's out there

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all of the the conspiracy theories that

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are out there

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the hoaxes and everything else didn't

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get through there and find yourself on

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the other side of the coin affirm the

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black hole of UFOs you will you will

439
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find like oh I didn't realize that

440
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before I didn't know that oh I I'm glad

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that I looked up this thing and I'm glad

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I

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there's so much bad stuff on the

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internet and people take advantage of

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true believers and they post things and

446
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pictures and ideas there's a lot of

447
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great stuff there too that you can find

448
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if you take the time so I I'm firmly

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convinced there's been a lot of

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disclosure I've seen it and it's out

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there one very strong example of

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disclosure certainly for me was the 1978

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UFO UN presentation that I produced I

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brought a lot of people together to talk

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to the nations of the world with with

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strong pieces of evidence that that

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there should be a scientific

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investigation global investigation of

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UFOs and and we were very careful not to

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not to include the phrase we're being

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visited by extraterrestrials let's find

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out what these alien ships are all about

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never I never I never make a statement

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where I say oh yeah I think they're from

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the Pleiades or Alpha Centauri or you

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you know I think they're living on the

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moon I I don't say anything like that

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public

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because if I can't prove it keep our

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mouth shut

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it's it's much better to talk about

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examples of disclosure so that was one

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earlier than that in 1947 there was a

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famous memo that was written by

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Lieutenant General Nathan twining of the

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air material command and and he urged a

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major investigation of what they called

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the flying discs back then and in it

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there's a the very top of the memo which

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was top-secret at first he said the

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phenomenon that's reported is is real

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it's not visionary it's not fictitious

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and people shouldn't be ridiculed and

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objects are being seen that approximate

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the size of manmade aircraft they are

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circular some with a dome on top and he

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goes on to explain the maneuverability

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characteristics of these UFOs and

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basically saying we need to really

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discover what's behind the phenomenon

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and see what we're going to do about

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this and if it has implications to our

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national security

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well that that twining memo then became

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the first part of a major Air Force

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investigation and it was called Project

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sign and then project sign became

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project grudge and then after that it

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morphed into what we now know as Project

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Blue Book and that's how Project Blue

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Book came came along and now Project

502
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Blue Book spent more than two decades

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looking into UFOs there's there's a very

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popular television series right now

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that's just been renewed for another

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season called Project Blue Book based on

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the reports and the history of Project

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Blue Book and and yet when the pressure

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was on the Air Force that

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to come up with something to give to the

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public in 1969 it was decided to end

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Project Blue Book they closed the books

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that you should final conclusions about

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their UFO studies saying that that in

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all the years we've been studying this

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more than like 15,000 reports we've come

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to the conclusion that there there was

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nothing that indicated anything there of

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any kind of scientific value nothing

520
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that would indicate dizzy these UFO

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things were a threat to our national

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security and that there was nothing that

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indicated that any of them were

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interplanetary alien vehicles so it's

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like we're shutting the doors move along

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there's nothing more to see here and and

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yet that was 1969 but in 68 as I had

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mentioned before the Air Force had put

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together a whole chapter on UFOs for

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their cadets in which they had all the

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these other statements in that chapter

532
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that basically screamed of disclosure

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screamed of scientific investigation was

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needed but then like a year later

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Project Blue Book closed and then the

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Air Force went in and they revised at

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that chapter and it was changed and it

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was reprinted for the cadets with new

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00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:25,169
information just amazing how they could

540
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do things behind the scenes the public

541
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would never know this it's amazing so

542
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those are a couple examples of what I

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think are real disclosure of in 2005

544
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:41,909
former President Bill Clinton was in

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Hong Kong giving a speech

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one of the members of the audience asked

547
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:51,590
him to talk about his interest in UFOs

548
00:25:57,139 --> 00:25:54,480
because people had known that he had

549
00:25:58,909 --> 00:25:57,149
tried to investigate some things when he

550
00:26:00,590 --> 00:25:58,919
was president and he said to the

551
00:26:03,379 --> 00:26:00,600
audience and he was very serious about

552
00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:03,389
it he said yeah when I was president I

553
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:06,509
looked into what may have happened in

554
00:26:13,489 --> 00:26:09,809
Roswell New Mexico in 1947 what was

555
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:13,499
there a UFO crash there and I also made

556
00:26:19,489 --> 00:26:17,070
some inquiries about area 51 the the

557
00:26:22,369 --> 00:26:19,499
secret base that we have outside of Las

558
00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:22,379
Vegas he said basically I there was

559
00:26:28,249 --> 00:26:24,929
nothing there that was given to me or

560
00:26:30,019 --> 00:26:28,259
told to me of any interest of anything

561
00:26:32,239 --> 00:26:30,029
that related to UFOs or

562
00:26:35,539 --> 00:26:32,249
extraterrestrials and then he said and

563
00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:35,549
you anybody can go on YouTube and look

564
00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:37,470
at this video he says he said look I

565
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:40,739
would not be the first president who had

566
00:26:48,619 --> 00:26:44,730
been lied to by his underlings who kept

567
00:26:50,779 --> 00:26:48,629
things from him so that they could just

568
00:26:52,639 --> 00:26:50,789
wait him out until he was out of office

569
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:52,649
and basically wait for the next guy to

570
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:54,539
come in the next president they could go

571
00:26:59,419 --> 00:26:56,850
the same thing he said there could be a

572
00:27:02,749 --> 00:26:59,429
bureaucratic person out there who's just

573
00:27:06,019 --> 00:27:02,759
waiting and has secret files and and

574
00:27:10,369 --> 00:27:06,029
that it may be part of the system where

575
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:10,379
this information is not given to elected

576
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:14,340
presidents he said they said if they

577
00:27:17,509 --> 00:27:15,179
have it

578
00:27:19,820 --> 00:27:17,519
it eluded me they successfully eluded me

579
00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:19,830
and I'm even embarrassed to say that I

580
00:27:25,940 --> 00:27:23,190
tried to look into it and I saw this

581
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,950
video and I thought that's disclosure it

582
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:28,320
screams of disclosure the fact that he

583
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:32,369
Clinton president would say would

584
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,129
suggest the possibility that elected

585
00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:37,919
presidents are not given the stuff that

586
00:27:42,889 --> 00:27:39,960
they that he didn't have a need to know

587
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:42,899
or high enough security clearance to be

588
00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:47,849
told certain things why I mean it raises

589
00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:50,879
the question of who's really in charge

590
00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:52,780
here

591
00:27:58,770 --> 00:27:55,300
if the President of the United States if

592
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:58,780
the commander-in-chief of our armed

593
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:02,320
forces doesn't have a clue or is not

594
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:05,110
told what may be going on then who does

595
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:09,130
know who's making the decisions and and

596
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:11,880
again III think it's important to stress

597
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:15,930
it's not just an American situation all

598
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:20,320
leaders of all countries they know that

599
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:22,960
there are things flying around in their

600
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:27,190
skies above their countries that can

601
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:29,290
come and go as they want and when they

602
00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:31,000
send up their jet fighters to try and

603
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:32,550
chase these things or force them down

604
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:35,410
there the fighters are outmaneuvered by

605
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:37,090
these crafts and by these lights and

606
00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:40,720
whatever most countries that have jet

607
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:42,790
fighter pilots have the same kind of

608
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:45,370
stories coming out and and a lot of

609
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:47,890
these countries now are starting to talk

610
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:51,970
about it that is disclosure kinking or

611
00:28:58,350 --> 00:28:53,950
around it that the definition of

612
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:58,360
disclosure by dictionaries is something

613
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:01,840
that is told that wasn't known before to

614
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:04,450
disclose something okay when countries

615
00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:06,450
are starting to talk and be open about

616
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:08,620
what's going on in the skies above

617
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:11,110
they're above their countries isn't that

618
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:14,290
disclosure or am I wrong I'm not making

619
00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:16,510
this stuff up my whole attitude these

620
00:29:23,670 --> 00:29:19,240
days is anything that I can find that

621
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:23,680
even hints of disclosure I think is

622
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:25,780
worth getting out to people and none of

623
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:28,120
this none of this has to include the

624
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:31,270
phrase oh I think that we're being

625
00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:33,370
visited by someone from another planet

626
00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:35,920
you don't need that you don't need to to

627
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:38,920
make that kind of stuff up whatever

628
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:41,410
these things are whatever they turn out

629
00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:43,810
to be whatever whatever or whoever

630
00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:47,560
controls them they know what they're

631
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:48,940
doing

632
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:51,190
they have their own agenda if they want

633
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:53,110
to show themselves they can but they're

634
00:29:59,730 --> 00:29:56,530
not doing that in the Bible there are

635
00:30:02,670 --> 00:29:59,740
many instances of a strange circular

636
00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:02,680
craft that was seen in the skies and

637
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:07,060
painters of the Renaissance and medieval

638
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:10,410
times would paint incredible pictures of

639
00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:13,330
people and places and things and and

640
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:15,160
occasionally they would put like a

641
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:17,830
circular object in the painting in the

642
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:21,040
sky above above the baby Jesus Christ

643
00:30:25,230 --> 00:30:23,830
and Mary John the Baptist that there was

644
00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:25,240
like this a circular thing sometimes

645
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:27,640
with beams of light coming out of these

646
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:29,650
things in paintings that are that are

647
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:31,930
like hanging in national galleries

648
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:36,370
around the world my question is why did

649
00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:39,010
the artists include these strange things

650
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:42,580
in the sky was it just some kind of

651
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:45,700
religious symbolism and if so what

652
00:30:52,650 --> 00:30:49,900
symbolism who were the things that were

653
00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:52,660
inside these strange craft were the

654
00:30:58,250 --> 00:30:55,240
angels of the Lord I mean what's the

655
00:31:02,160 --> 00:30:58,260
point when there's so many things that

656
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:02,170
were painted Eve even and I go back even

657
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:05,560
further in my presentation I show i show

658
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:08,800
allah stration of cave drawings from

659
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:12,490
early humans on caves from like

660
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:17,170
Australia and Africa in Mexico where the

661
00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:19,660
the early the only people who lived in

662
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:24,520
caves they had no newspapers in in which

663
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:28,810
to tell their their cave dwellers what

664
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:30,010
happened to them when they went out to

665
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:32,620
hunt for food today they they had

666
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:34,090
nothing to print it on there's no

667
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:36,090
typewriters and so they had they made

668
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:38,770
pigmentations and they drew things on

669
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:41,170
cave walls you can see these these

670
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:43,720
petroglyphs all over the place on the

671
00:31:49,290 --> 00:31:45,940
internet and in so many of these

672
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:49,300
illustrations you see illustrations of

673
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,390
the people that were out hunting you see

674
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:53,440
animals that they were trying to kill

675
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:54,640
and above them

676
00:32:01,879 --> 00:31:59,100
the circular objects disclosure

677
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:01,889
I say in my presentation I think that

678
00:32:08,269 --> 00:32:04,980
the New York Times in in New York City

679
00:32:11,779 --> 00:32:08,279
famous newspaper and its motto is all

680
00:32:14,419 --> 00:32:11,789
the news that's fit to print very famous

681
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:14,429
motto I say they borrowed that motto

682
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:16,919
from ancient cave dwellers because

683
00:32:21,379 --> 00:32:19,080
ancient cave dwellers painting what they

684
00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:21,389
saw with things in the sky that was all

685
00:32:26,890 --> 00:32:24,260
the news that's fit to paint

686
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:26,900
you know I often say to people if you if

687
00:32:31,810 --> 00:32:28,790
you take a group of people ten people

688
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:31,820
line them up and start with the person

689
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,640
on one end and just say that person what

690
00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:36,080
would it take for you to believe that

691
00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:38,780
Earth is being visited by someone what

692
00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:40,460
would it take you to believe blah blah

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:42,620
blah and you can go down the line and

694
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:44,690
you can get ten different answers one

695
00:32:49,539 --> 00:32:47,600
person might say I would I would like

696
00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:49,549
the news to come out that something just

697
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:52,100
landed on the White House lawn next

698
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:55,130
person would say I would like to see a

699
00:33:01,360 --> 00:32:57,950
fleet of ships appear over the city

700
00:33:05,770 --> 00:33:01,370
just like that now the person would say

701
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:05,780
I would like a an announcement from the

702
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:07,910
White House the actual President of the

703
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:10,130
United States holding a press conference

704
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:14,000
in the press room and announcing that

705
00:33:20,049 --> 00:33:16,370
there is now evidence that we're being

706
00:33:21,150 --> 00:33:20,059
visited another person would say I would

707
00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:21,160
like to see more and more people

708
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:24,590
abducted or allegedly abducted and have

709
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:29,929
those stories increase you could get so

710
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:34,160
many stories and yet the bottom line is

711
00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:37,730
no matter what they say they want that

712
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:39,830
could convince them it doesn't matter

713
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,750
what people say because

714
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:45,600
we don't know what the agenda is of

715
00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:49,350
whatever is in control of these UFOs if

716
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:52,140
they want to show themselves and I'm in

717
00:33:57,770 --> 00:33:55,290
a mass showing over every major city in

718
00:33:58,510 --> 00:33:57,780
the world they'll do it but they don't

719
00:34:02,270 --> 00:33:58,520
do that

720
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:02,280
why what's what's their purpose oh we

721
00:34:08,330 --> 00:34:05,850
are we some kind of experiment that they

722
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,340
that they dropped here eons ago they

723
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:10,980
they place humans on this planet to

724
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:13,740
thrive once the planet became habitable

725
00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:16,050
by humans and now they're kind of coming

726
00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:17,790
back periodically to check on the

727
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:21,360
experiment I mean I don't know there's

728
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:23,250
there are too many theories out there

729
00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:24,810
are they coming from

730
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:32,820
dimensions or other realities in the

731
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:35,010
universe are they coming from another

732
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:38,190
universe again that's up to the

733
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:42,210
scientists to speculate on but even then

734
00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:44,860
it's it's

735
00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:48,880
in the end it's inevitably up to the UFO

736
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:52,150
intelligence itself to decide what it's

737
00:34:57,870 --> 00:34:54,760
going to do we have nothing to do with

738
00:35:00,330 --> 00:34:57,880
that what we just can't we can't reach

739
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:00,340
out and say please land we can't reach

740
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:02,980
the out to them in big announcements and

741
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:06,400
say please help us we are a world that's

742
00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:09,100
filled with with big problems we need

743
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:09,670
your help

744
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:11,380
please help us please save us please

745
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:15,400
stop the growing climate problem you've

746
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:17,950
must have the technology to be able to

747
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,310
help us all that stuff just doesn't

748
00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:27,600
whoever is driving these vehicles they

749
00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:30,460
know what they're doing and I don't

750
00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:34,990
believe that I'm going to see the major

751
00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:37,540
announcement or the major disclosure or

752
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:40,180
the revelation of them I don't think

753
00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:41,110
that that's going to happen in my

754
00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:44,140
lifetime I think we're still not ready

755
00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:46,360
yet as a species I don't think we're

756
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:49,240
ready to be invited into their galactic

757
00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:53,050
you know Starfleet Federation or or

758
00:36:00,300 --> 00:35:56,470
whatever they we're not ready I think

759
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:00,310
it's really important that people all of

760
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:03,490
us remain skeptics but open-minded

761
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:08,260
skeptics that there is no room in this

762
00:36:13,770 --> 00:36:11,470
field for ridicule of any kind the

763
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:13,780
ridicule generally comes from the

764
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:17,830
hard-nosed debunkers whose job it is and

765
00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:20,950
they relish the fact that they'll do

766
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:23,980
whatever they can to explain away every

767
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:28,140
single UFO sighting and literally

768
00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:31,860
statistically it's about I'm gonna say

769
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:34,590
90% maybe a little higher

770
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:39,180
90% of UFO reports can be explained by

771
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:42,370
easy things ordinary things just draw

772
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:46,830
astronomical things whether things and

773
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,810
misidentifications of aircraft I'm not

774
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:51,520
interested in those I'm only interested

775
00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:53,530
in that smaller four or five percent

776
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:57,300
that are never properly explained

777
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:00,480
and it's hard for the debunkers to

778
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:02,520
attack those because they try and come

779
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,260
up with an explanation of stuff for

780
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:06,960
something and it does just doesn't

781
00:37:11,570 --> 00:37:08,760
always hold water but they'll do

782
00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:11,580
whatever they can to to kind of force

783
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:14,750
the issue and end up ridiculing someone

784
00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:18,260
people have have lost their their jobs

785
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:21,870
their families their friends going back

786
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:23,940
historically because they dared to speak

787
00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:26,910
out and talk about this thing that they

788
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:30,630
saw in their backyard you know when I do

789
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:33,000
a presentation I'll say to people give

790
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:34,980
me a show of hands how many of you think

791
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:36,510
that you've seen something unexplained

792
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:39,660
in the skies during a daytime or

793
00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:43,380
nighttime and like oh a big portion of

794
00:37:50,110 --> 00:37:45,630
the hands grow up and then I'll say to

795
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:50,120
them how many of you reported it

796
00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:52,970
can you imagine how few hands go up at

797
00:37:57,790 --> 00:37:55,400
that point people have been afraid to

798
00:38:00,670 --> 00:37:57,800
report there's so many more stories out

799
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,680
there to be told people need to know

800
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:02,000
that they'll there'll be a place where

801
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:06,350
they can go in safety and to be able to

802
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:08,810
just tell what happened to them without

803
00:38:13,930 --> 00:38:11,510
fear of ridiculing nobody likes to be

804
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:13,940
ridiculed nobody it's that's not good

805
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:15,650
for the psyche for the consciousness and

806
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:18,560
so there has to be better dialogue

807
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:21,230
between I think between the powers that

808
00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:24,170
be meaning that the governmental powers

809
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:26,900
or the military and eyewitnesses and

810
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:30,440
science science has to let down its

811
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:34,820
guard and and go into it looking into

812
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:37,700
things in a scientific method but not to

813
00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:40,250
ridicule people you just can't do it I

814
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:41,870
just wish that we could all remain

815
00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:44,730
open-minded skeptics

816
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:45,990
if you're interested in finding out more

817
00:38:53,170 --> 00:38:47,849
about me I've got a website called Lee

818
00:38:55,069 --> 00:38:53,180
Spiegel com it's Li le e Spiegel s Pei

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GTL calm

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I will also very soon be premiering a

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new radio show called edge of reality

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radio that's going to be on kgr a

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digital my show is going to be on weekly

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for two hours and it can be heard all

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over the world and I'm going to be

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bringing amazing guests on to talk about

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amazing things not just UFOs but the

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whole realm of UFOs paranormal

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unexplained and I want to deliver the

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attitude of disclosure very very

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important to me Capital D disclosure

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that's that's the next thing that I'm

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involved with and I'm also near the end

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of co producing a new documentary with

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the film producer and creator James Fox

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and we will unleash that on to the

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public as soon as possible and we hope

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people will really like it so there's a

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lot of stuff going on and I'm anxious to